Deadpool & Wolverine to be Memoryholed, as Marvel DOUBLES DOWN on their own past failures?!

Midnight's Edge
31 Jul 202411:51

TLDRThe video discusses the surprising success of 'Deadpool and Wolverine' and the contrasting approach by Marvel Studios at ComicCon. Despite the film's hit status, Marvel seems to distance itself, focusing instead on troubled productions and the Multiverse concept. The unexpected return of Robert Downey Jr. as Dr. Doom has divided fans, with some speculating a twist involving mind possession of Tony Stark. The video also touches on Marvel's spoiler culture and the audience's trust in Ryan Reynolds over Kevin Feige, suggesting Deadpool and Wolverine may be the only characters currently resonating with viewers.

Takeaways

  • 🎬 The movie 'Deadpool & Wolverine' was a massive success, exceeding industry expectations and becoming a crowd favorite.
  • 🔍 Marvel's ComicCon presentation left fans puzzled by not confirming the return of Deadpool and Wolverine, despite their success.
  • 🤔 The surprise return of Robert Downey Jr. as Dr. Doom confused fans, as it diverged from the expectation of seeing him reprise his role as Tony Stark.
  • 🎭 The success of 'Deadpool & Wolverine' is largely attributed to Ryan Reynolds, with Marvel's involvement being minimal.
  • 💡 Marvel seems to be ignoring the success of 'Deadpool & Wolverine' and focusing on their own troubled productions, such as 'Captain America 4' and 'Thunderbolts'.
  • 🔄 Marvel's strategy of bringing back Robert Downey Jr. as Dr. Doom is seen as a risky move, potentially dividing the audience.
  • 🎉 Despite the mixed reactions, the announcement of Downey Jr.'s return generated excitement due to his popularity.
  • 📉 There are concerns that the announcement might negatively impact the box office performance of 'Deadpool & Wolverine' in its second weekend.
  • 🤷‍♂️ The video suggests that Marvel may not have learned from past failures and continues to take big risks with their cinematic universe.
  • 🎥 The video also discusses a potential twist involving Dr. Doom possessing Tony Stark's mind, leading to the resurrection of the original Tony Stark.
  • 🌐 The script touches on the topic of spoiler culture and how Marvel's announcements may have affected audience trust and anticipation.

Q & A

  • What was the reaction to the announcement of Robert Downey Jr. returning as Dr. Doom?

    -The announcement was met with confusion and mixed reactions from fans, as many expected him to return as Tony Stark, not as a different character like Dr. Doom.

  • Why might Marvel's decision to bring back Robert Downey Jr. as Dr. Doom be seen as a risky move?

    -It is a risky move because fans have a strong attachment to Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark, and his portrayal of a different character could potentially disappoint or confuse the audience.

  • What is the significance of the Deadpool and Wolverine movie's success in relation to the MCU?

    -The success of Deadpool and Wolverine has restored faith in the MCU for many fans, and it is seen as a strong indicator of what the audience wants from Marvel's Cinematic Universe.

  • Why did Marvel not leverage the success of Deadpool and Wolverine at ComicCon?

    -Marvel might not have leveraged the success because the movie was primarily a Ryan Reynolds production, and it did not align with Kevin Feige's vision for the MCU.

  • What is the potential twist regarding Dr. Doom's character in the upcoming MCU movies?

    -There is speculation that Dr. Doom might be a separate character who has possessed the mind of Tony Stark, leading to the return of the original Tony Stark character.

  • How did the audience react to the idea of knowing spoilers for Deadpool and Wolverine?

    -Contrary to the usual trend, the majority of fans preferred not to know spoilers for Deadpool and Wolverine, indicating a desire to experience the movie without prior knowledge.

  • What is the connection between the success of 'The Sound of Freedom' and the values it represents?

    -The success of 'The Sound of Freedom' is connected to the values it represents, as it became a hit by spreading awareness of real issues and promoting values that resonated with the audience.

  • What impact could Marvel's decision to memory hole Deadpool and Wolverine have on the MCU?

    -Memory holing Deadpool and Wolverine could alienate fans who have shown strong support for these characters, potentially leading to a loss of faith in the MCU.

  • How does the 'Fighting Squad' movie relate to the themes and values of 'The Sound of Freedom'?

    -Both 'Fighting Squad' and 'The Sound of Freedom' share similar themes and values, focusing on the strength of faith and the potential for redemption in challenging circumstances.

  • What is the potential consequence of Marvel's decision to double down on their own troubled productions?

    -The potential consequence is a further division among fans and a possible decline in audience trust, as Marvel seems to be ignoring the preferences and desires of their audience.

Outlines

00:00

🤔 MCU's Misstep with Deadpool and Wolverine

The script discusses the unexpected success of 'Deadpool in Wolverine', which exceeded industry expectations and became a crowd favorite. It criticizes Marvel for not capitalizing on this success during their ComicCon presentation, instead opting to bring back Robert Downey Jr. as Doctor Doom, a move that confused fans. The narrative suggests that Marvel's decision may have been influenced by a desire to distance themselves from the film, which was a Ryan Reynolds production and not in line with Kevin Feige's vision for the MCU. The summary also touches on Marvel's troubled productions and their focus on the Multiverse, despite audience backlash.

05:02

😠 Fan Backlash and the Future of Deadpool and Wolverine

This paragraph delves into the potential negative impact of Marvel's announcement on the success of 'Deadpool and Wolverine'. It suggests that the decision to bring back Robert Downey Jr. as Doctor Doom may have overshadowed the film's achievements and created division among fans. The script also highlights Grace Randolph's perspective, who believes that Marvel's strategy has damaged the film's momentum and that the studio's trust with audiences is waning. The summary points out the contrast between the audience's trust in Ryan Reynolds and their skepticism towards Kevin Feige's direction for the MCU.

10:04

🎬 The Impact of 'The Sound of Freedom' and 'The Fighting Squad'

The final paragraph shifts focus to the film 'The Sound of Freedom', which became a hit despite industry skepticism and controversy. It discusses how the film raised awareness about real issues and values. The script then introduces 'The Fighting Squad' from Epoch Studios, a film based on the same values and featuring a powerful true story of faith and redemption. The summary encourages viewers to watch 'The Fighting Squad' and share their thoughts on the discussed topics.

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Keywords

💡Deadpool & Wolverine

Deadpool and Wolverine are two popular characters from the Marvel Comics universe. In the context of the video, they are the subjects of a successful film that has exceeded industry expectations and has been well-received by audiences, becoming a 'crowd pleaser'. The video discusses the impact of their film on the MCU (Marvel Cinematic Universe) and the decisions made by Marvel Studios regarding their future appearances.

💡Memoryholed

To 'memoryhole' something refers to the act of causing it to be forgotten or erased from public memory, often by suppressing information about it. In the video, the term is used to suggest that Marvel Studios might be ignoring or downplaying the success of the Deadpool and Wolverine film, possibly to focus on other projects that align more closely with their current vision for the MCU.

💡ComicCon

ComicCon is a popular convention for fans of comic books, science fiction, and fantasy, where studios often make major announcements about upcoming projects. The script mentions Marvel's ComicCon presentation, where they did not confirm the return of Deadpool and Wolverine, which was a point of confusion and disappointment for fans.

💡Robert Downey Jr.

Robert Downey Jr. is a well-known actor who famously portrayed Tony Stark/Iron Man in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The video discusses the surprising announcement that he will be returning to the MCU, not as Iron Man, but as the character Dr. Doom, which has caused mixed reactions among fans.

💡Dr. Doom

Dr. Doom is a supervillain from Marvel Comics, known for his rivalry with the Fantastic Four. In the video, the character is mentioned in relation to Robert Downey Jr.'s casting, which is a significant departure from his previous role as Iron Man and has sparked debate among fans.

💡MCU

The Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) is a shared universe of interconnected superhero films produced by Marvel Studios. The video discusses the impact of Deadpool and Wolverine on the MCU, as well as the decisions made by Marvel Studios that may affect the future direction of the MCU.

💡Kevin Feige

Kevin Feige is the president of Marvel Studios and has been instrumental in the creation of the MCU. The video script suggests that his vision for the future of the MCU may not align with the direction that fans want to see, particularly in relation to the handling of Deadpool and Wolverine.

💡Multiverse

The concept of the 'Multiverse' in the MCU refers to the existence of multiple parallel universes. The video mentions that Deadpool had criticized Marvel's execution of the multiverse concept, which has implications for the storylines and character appearances in future MCU films.

💡Spoiler Culture

The term 'spoiler culture' refers to the practice of revealing plot details about movies or TV shows before they are released. The video discusses a shift in this culture, where fans of Deadpool and Wolverine preferred not to know everything about the movie in advance, contrasting with the usual eagerness for information in the case of other MCU films.

💡Anchor Beings

In the context of the video, 'anchor beings' refers to characters that are central to the MCU and are beloved by fans. Deadpool and Wolverine are described as such, as their film's success indicates that audiences are invested in these characters and want to see more of them.

💡Epoch Studios

Epoch Studios is mentioned in the video as a sponsor and is associated with the promotion of a film called 'The Fighting Squad'. The video describes the film as a powerful story that serves as a testament to the strength of faith and the potential for redemption.

Highlights

Deadpool and Wolverine are a worldwide smash hit, surpassing industry expectations.

The success of Deadpool and Wolverine is overshadowed by Marvel's ComicCon presentation.

Robert Downey Jr. is brought back as Dr. Doom, confusing fans.

Marvel's decision to not confirm Deadpool and Wolverine's return at ComicCon is criticized.

The film was a Ryan Reynolds production, greenlit against the wishes of Kevin Feige.

Marvel's current direction is questioned, with Deadpool and Wolverine not fitting the new vision.

Marvel's troubled productions are highlighted, including Captain America 4 and Thunderbolts.

The announcement of Robert Downey Jr.'s return as Dr. Doom divides the audience.

Grace Randolph suggests that Marvel's timing of the Dr. Doom announcement may have hurt Deadpool and Wolverine's momentum.

The possibility of a twist involving Dr. Doom possessing Tony Stark's mind is discussed.

Audiences are more trusting of Ryan Reynolds with Deadpool than Kevin Feige with Marvel.

A shift in spoiler culture is observed, with fans preferring not to know everything before watching Deadpool and Wolverine.

The Fighting Squad from Epoch Studios is promoted as a film with a powerful message of faith and redemption.

The Sound of Freedom is mentioned as a success that defied Hollywood's expectations and promoted awareness of important issues.

The video suggests that Marvel may want to bring back Deadpool and Wolverine sooner due to their popularity.

The video concludes with a call to action for viewers to share their thoughts in the comments.